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Isaac Mayes's avatar

While I don't think I land fully at your position, I think these posts are an incredibly important conversation as the church has in recdent yeras taken these queations for granted. We jump to the conclusion without wrestling with the scripture.

You pull parts of your argument in previous posts from the Sermon on the Mount, and I wonder if we can treat this similarly to some of the other topics in there, particularly divorce. The Jews had taken God's tolerance of divorce as a license to divorce, and Christ clarifies that there is an extremely narrow definition of what justifies divorce. Divorce should never be taken lightly, it is not how we resolve marital disputes, and it is never good. It is only justifiable when the covenant has been broken with adultery, and it is still not a good thing. Divorce would also not be obligated.

Perhaps we should think about self-defense in the same manner. While God tolerates it, it is not something that can be taken lightly, and we do not have a broad license to commit violence against every threat. Violence is not how we resolve conflict, and it is never good. It would only be justifiable, I believe, when innocent life is under imminent threat, and nonviolent resolution is impossible, and even then to take another life is not a good thing. And as you pointed out, it would not be obligated.

Still something I'm pondering, I'm sure my thoughts will continue to evolve.

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Tim Archer's avatar

It's interesting to me that in the book of Acts, when Paul was being threatened by Jewish assassins, the church didn't send out armed guards to protect him. They instead appealed to the Roman government for protection.

In fact, we never see the church making use of weapons in Acts or any discussion of such in the epistles, despite Jesus' teaching in Luke 22:36.

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